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		<title>By: The End in Mind &#187; I&#8217;ve Seen the Future and the Future is Us (Using Google)</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>The End in Mind &#187; I&#8217;ve Seen the Future and the Future is Us (Using Google)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sense out the world&#8217;s complexities in communities of learners. In my &#8220;Post-LMS Manifesto&#8221; earlier this month, I observed: Technology alone cannot save us or help us solve our most [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sense out the world&#8217;s complexities in communities of learners. In my &#8220;Post-LMS Manifesto&#8221; earlier this month, I observed: Technology alone cannot save us or help us solve our most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lost Post &#171; Slow Thinkers Keep Right</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>Lost Post &#171; Slow Thinkers Keep Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 04:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lost post! Sorry, go here for something [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Who&#8217;s Driving Learning &#171; Slow Thinkers Keep Right</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Who&#8217;s Driving Learning &#171; Slow Thinkers Keep Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 04:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] good read on the concept of moving teaching and learning forward is A Post LMS Manifesto by Jon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] good read on the concept of moving teaching and learning forward is A Post LMS Manifesto by Jon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RodeWorks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Take the management out of learning &#8212; end of LMS&#8217;?</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-865</link>
		<dc:creator>RodeWorks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Take the management out of learning &#8212; end of LMS&#8217;?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a blog post Jon Mott argues that students need to be focused on connecting to fellow learners both on and off campus.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Twitter TechSmith LinkedIn Learning Strategy</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-864</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter TechSmith LinkedIn Learning Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The End in Mind &#8221; A Post-LMS Manifesto, May 8, 2009 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; OLDaily per Stephen Downes, 8 de maig de 2009 TIC, E/A, FER / PER&#8230;:</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; OLDaily per Stephen Downes, 8 de maig de 2009 TIC, E/A, FER / PER&#8230;:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tracta d&#8217;allò que suggereix el títol:. &#8220;Hem d&#8217;abandonar els SGA/LMS i les parets artificials que construeixen al voltant de grups arbitraris d&#8217;aprenents que s&#8217;han matriculat en parts de cursos en les nostres institucions. En un món post-SGA/LMS ens hem de preocupar menys de &#8216;gestionar&#8217; aprenents i focalitzar-nos més en ajudar-los a connectar entre ells i aprenents semblants tant de dins com de fora de les nostres institucions.&#8221; John Mott, The End in Mind (la fi en ment) [L&#039;enllaç] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tracta d&#8217;allò que suggereix el títol:. &#8220;Hem d&#8217;abandonar els SGA/LMS i les parets artificials que construeixen al voltant de grups arbitraris d&#8217;aprenents que s&#8217;han matriculat en parts de cursos en les nostres institucions. En un món post-SGA/LMS ens hem de preocupar menys de &#8216;gestionar&#8217; aprenents i focalitzar-nos més en ajudar-los a connectar entre ells i aprenents semblants tant de dins com de fora de les nostres institucions.&#8221; John Mott, The End in Mind (la fi en ment) [L'enllaç] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Post-LMS-manifesti &#171; Sometu blogi</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Post-LMS-manifesti &#171; Sometu blogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] kirjoitus on luvalla tehty käännös Jon Mottin blogikirjoituksesta 7.5.2009. This article is a Finnish translation of an English blog post. Follow the link to find the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jonmott</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>jonmott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that would be great. And thanks for the reminder that I need to get a CC license on my blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that would be great. And thanks for the reminder that I need to get a CC license on my blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hotrum</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hotrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the issue is ultimately about control - whoo has it, who wields it, who requires it - and how it dicates our learning process. The control politicians have over the funding of education and the imposition of management standards that do not measure actual learning. The control industry has over learning as training. The control administrators have over the design, development and support of the learning process. The amount of control faculty are willing to cede to students. The control imposed by predesigned soplutions from third party vedors of the LMS who sell to administrators NOT to faculty and students.  The LMS is ultimately a management tool - and pays little respect to the actual learning process. We need to wake faculty and students up from the stupor thay have fallen into by acquiescing to this technology and get them to work toward redefining our use of instructional technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue is ultimately about control &#8211; whoo has it, who wields it, who requires it &#8211; and how it dicates our learning process. The control politicians have over the funding of education and the imposition of management standards that do not measure actual learning. The control industry has over learning as training. The control administrators have over the design, development and support of the learning process. The amount of control faculty are willing to cede to students. The control imposed by predesigned soplutions from third party vedors of the LMS who sell to administrators NOT to faculty and students.  The LMS is ultimately a management tool &#8211; and pays little respect to the actual learning process. We need to wake faculty and students up from the stupor thay have fallen into by acquiescing to this technology and get them to work toward redefining our use of instructional technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/05/a-post-lms-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in complete agreement with you, Jon.  Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://mkgold.net/blog/2009/03/30/against-learning-management-systems/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my take&lt;/a&gt; on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m in complete agreement with you, Jon.  Here&#39;s <a href="http://mkgold.net/blog/2009/03/30/against-learning-management-systems/" rel="nofollow">my take</a> on the subject.</p>
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