Comments on: PLNs, Portfolios, and a Loosely-Coupled Gradebook http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/ Musings about Academic Technology Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:30:30 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: OLNet Fellowship – Week 2 Reflections http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1239 OLNet Fellowship – Week 2 Reflections Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:24:39 +0000 http://www.jonmott.com/blog/?p=57#comment-1239 [...] as I’m no ecologist, that’s for sure.) Some of us have been enthused by the prospect of Loosely Coupled Gradebooks as a technology that can unseat the dominant, monolithic LMS. But to date, there have been only a [...] [...] as I’m no ecologist, that’s for sure.) Some of us have been enthused by the prospect of Loosely Coupled Gradebooks as a technology that can unseat the dominant, monolithic LMS. But to date, there have been only a [...]

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]]> By: jonmott http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 jonmott Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:32:42 +0000 http://www.jonmott.com/blog/?p=57#comment-1073 Nils, Sorry we'll miss you at OpenEd. I'll hop on and check out your gradebook project. Looks very interesting from what I've seen thus far. Jon Nils,

Sorry we’ll miss you at OpenEd. I’ll hop on and check out your gradebook project. Looks very interesting from what I’ve seen thus far.

Jon

]]> By: nilspeterson http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 nilspeterson Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:53:57 +0000 http://www.jonmott.com/blog/?p=57#comment-1072 Jon<br>Sorry we won't be able to meet with you in Vancouver next month, but wanted to share the next step in our Harvesting Gradebook explorations. Here is a working example we are building for a webinar later this month.<br><a href="http://communitylearning.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/harvesting-feedback-on-a-course-assignment/" rel="nofollow">http://communitylearning.wordpress.com/2009/07/...</a><br><br>You do not need to wait for the event, you can link from the blog to the event space and use the tools to rate a sample of student work (and the assignment that prompted that work) and then see the feedback harvested from three vantage points (student, instructor, and program). I think this will illustrate our ideas about harvesting, more than grades, qualitative feedback, and for more than the purpose of marking students, but to improve assignments and academic programs. Jon
Sorry we won't be able to meet with you in Vancouver next month, but wanted to share the next step in our Harvesting Gradebook explorations. Here is a working example we are building for a webinar later this month.
http://communitylearning.wordpress.com/2009/07/...

You do not need to wait for the event, you can link from the blog to the event space and use the tools to rate a sample of student work (and the assignment that prompted that work) and then see the feedback harvested from three vantage points (student, instructor, and program). I think this will illustrate our ideas about harvesting, more than grades, qualitative feedback, and for more than the purpose of marking students, but to improve assignments and academic programs.

]]> By: Tord Høivik http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-957 Tord Høivik Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:25:19 +0000 http://www.jonmott.com/blog/?p=57#comment-957 Great summing up. <br><br>Here at Oslo University College the LATINA courses are based on the same line of thinking: <a href="http://pliny.wordpress.com/2009/06/21/ps-709/" rel="nofollow">http://pliny.wordpress.com/2009/06/21/ps-709/</a> Great summing up.

Here at Oslo University College the LATINA courses are based on the same line of thinking: http://pliny.wordpress.com/2009/06/21/ps-709/

]]> By: Kevin Reeve http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-956 Kevin Reeve Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:48:08 +0000 http://www.jonmott.com/blog/?p=57#comment-956 Have we come full circle? Well almost. In the days we started looking for a LMS (1997) , faculty were using Xcel for the gradebook/roster and then using various free web tools for chat, discussions, content etc.<br>The difference is now the tools out there as you state have matured, and there are a ton more of them. <br><br>What is missing is the simple connectivity standard for connecting to the grade book and it might not be about a grade, it might be "participated", or "commented", or "completed."<br><br>I think you hit on a key point about this type of learning being held back by accrediting agencies. Perhaps some of them need to be brought together for the discussion. The new generation is ready.... Have we come full circle? Well almost. In the days we started looking for a LMS (1997) , faculty were using Xcel for the gradebook/roster and then using various free web tools for chat, discussions, content etc.
The difference is now the tools out there as you state have matured, and there are a ton more of them.

What is missing is the simple connectivity standard for connecting to the grade book and it might not be about a grade, it might be “participated”, or “commented”, or “completed.”

I think you hit on a key point about this type of learning being held back by accrediting agencies. Perhaps some of them need to be brought together for the discussion. The new generation is ready….

]]> By: Jeremy Browne http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-955 Jeremy Browne Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:13:17 +0000 http://www.jonmott.com/blog/?p=57#comment-955 Jon, I can't wait to see the further development on this. I've responded to your comments on my blog.<br><br><a href="http://brownelearning.org/blog/?p=517&cpage=1#comment-3581" rel="nofollow">http://brownelearning.org/blog/?p=517&cpage=1#c...</a><br><br><blockquote>...How much structure do we put in place to assure a certain level of reliability, while still providing the students the ownership Brown recommends?</blockquote> Jon, I can't wait to see the further development on this. I've responded to your comments on my blog.

http://brownelearning.org/blog/?p=517&cpage=1#c...

…How much structure do we put in place to assure a certain level of reliability, while still providing the students the ownership Brown recommends?

]]> By: Jeremy Browne http://www.jonmott.com/blog/2009/06/connectedness-and-the-open-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-954 Jeremy Browne Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:48:10 +0000 http://www.jonmott.com/blog/?p=57#comment-954 Jon, a great post, but several things cause me concern. <a href="http://brownelearning.org/blog/?p=517" rel="nofollow">http://brownelearning.org/blog/?p=517</a><br><br><blockquote>Discussing assessments (portfolios included) without regard for modern validity is akin to pontificating about the cloud without understanding the network. <br>...<br>[You don't] mention reliability specifically in his post, but [your] notion of a quasi-decentralized (loosely-coupled) assessment framework for student portfolios has a prima facie effect on the reliability of the assessment results. <br>...<br>I would argue that the degree to which ownership of the portfolio is decentralized (accorded to each student), there will be a necessary degradation in reliability of the judgments passed on the portfolio.<br></blockquote> Jon, a great post, but several things cause me concern. http://brownelearning.org/blog/?p=517

Discussing assessments (portfolios included) without regard for modern validity is akin to pontificating about the cloud without understanding the network.
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[You don't] mention reliability specifically in his post, but [your] notion of a quasi-decentralized (loosely-coupled) assessment framework for student portfolios has a prima facie effect on the reliability of the assessment results.
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I would argue that the degree to which ownership of the portfolio is decentralized (accorded to each student), there will be a necessary degradation in reliability of the judgments passed on the portfolio.

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